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DRSOOLERS ( member #85508) posted at 2:20 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

I hear what you’re saying, but focusing solely on emotional affairs misses the very real, physical violation that happens when physical cheating takes place. It completely sidesteps the theft of bodily autonomy and sexual agency.

When someone sleeps with an outside partner while continuing to have sex with their spouse, the entire foundation of consent at home collapses. Consent is not a blank cheque. It relies on honesty about what you are actually agreeing to. If you conceal the fact that you are sleeping with someone else, you completely rob your partner of their right to give informed consent about who and what they are exposing their body to.

Look at how the law handles similar omissions. In the UK and many other jurisdictions, if someone knows they are carrying a serious transmissible infection like HIV and has sex without telling their partner, they can be prosecuted for reckless grievous bodily harm. Transmission is not a certainty in those cases; it is a calculated risk. The perpetrator rarely has any active intent to pass on the illness, yet the law rightly recognises that deliberately concealing the hazard forces an involuntary physical threat onto someone else.

Logically, physical cheating creates that exact same dynamic. Introducing an undisclosed sexual network forces physical vulnerability and health risks onto an unknowing partner. In both situations, the innocent person is denied the right to assess the danger being imposed on their own body.

Your sofa analogy also misses the mark. Physical adultery is never a clumsy toddler bumping into someone with a glass of red wine. You do not slip and fall into months of secret texts, hotel rooms, and physical intimacy. The deception required to sustain sex with both a spouse and an outside partner is calculated, active, and prolonged.

As for emotional affairs, I actually agree they are not the same as rape, but that does not mean they aren't abusive. An emotional affair is far more akin to severe psychological abuse. It involves prolonged gaslighting, reality distortion, and intentional deceit, where a partner is led to question their own sanity, intuition, and reality while their trust is systematically dismantled behind their back.

So while an emotional affair inflicts acute psychological abuse through calculated manipulation, physical cheating crosses right into the territory of bodily violation. Forcing someone into a high-risk sexual situation under false pretences is not just a breach of emotional trust. It is an assault on their physical self-determination.

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BackfromtheStorm ( member #86900) posted at 2:43 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

Yeah, I’m not sure I think adultery is best thought of as sexual abuse. Quite a few of the people on this very site had EAs that were not sexual. Your framework, that adultery is sexual abuse, cannot explain the trauma of that kind of EA. And if it can’t, that’s a pretty good indicator that it’s a flawed framework.

It is sexual (and emotional, but that’s included in the definition truly) abuse.

Tell me, what is the distinctive trait of Emotional affairs? It’s a rethorical question, for the distinctive trait is sexual and emotional attraction between the wayward and the affair partner.

By definition the ea happens with a potential partner who the wayward is attracted to. If it was a person that doesn’t fit their sexual orientation it never becomes an emotional affair, it might be a close friendship.

How many times you hear the "not just friends" mentioned? It’s because they are not just friends, there is sexual attraction involved. Hence sex. Hence sexual abuse of the betrayed partner/s.

As you can see the definition fits perfectly.

What it is flawed is the ,ai stream picture of sex, that is narrowly reduced to #sex = intercourse #

Intercourse is but one aspect of the multifaceted connector that sex is.

In a more holistic way and far more precise sex is:

The physical (as in manifest, palpable, not just body to body) manifestation of a connection

It has a deep an encompassing emotional and physical attraction that takes both the body and mind along completely.

Even taken separately from love it is simply a deep and intimate connection of mind, soul and body, with energy, gravity, attraction, playfulness, the majority of sex happens before you even touch the partner, the intercourse penetration or genital stimulation is but the dessert of a full course meal.

You would not call masturbation sex, because although is a sexual act (as concerning the genitalia) there is no connection between two partners.

There it is, a far better definition is simple and elegant: sex is the connection between two partners manifesting.

Wether emotional or physical, those are simply facets of sex. As pa and ea are simply facets of infidelity.

They are the same thing.

Infidelity cannot happen where there is no sexual connection, if a wayward husband gets closed with his male buddy and he likes women, there is no EA there. Because there isn’t going to be sexual connection ever, you cannot cross that boundary when the nature itself sets it in stone.

You can still betray your partner even with a friend, but is a different kind of betrayal than infidelity.

When there is such connection between two partners that is sex. The manifestation of that energy is a unique cocktail of the connection between those two.

If you add to the mix a third, the cocktail is no more what it was, the mix is adulterated (this is the etymology of adultery, it was used for adulterated wine in the past) and that mixes and taints the liquid irrevocably, this is the adultery.

One may have unilaterally chosen to insert this new fluid (sexual energy, sexual connection) into the mix, and this new sexual energy violates and destroys the previous existing one.

This is abuse, because it was made behind the back and with damage of, the victim partner, and it is sexual in nature. The cheater is the abuser here, nobody else is (not even the AP, they are just an ingredient to adulterate and taint the connection).

Sexual abuse.

There are many other sexual abuses? Sure, our friend here just described that she was tricked into being pregnant by her cheater, something that she would have never wanted if she knew that he betrayed her.

This is also sexual abuse.

Then we have sexual violence. Then we have sexual manipulation (like our friend here, but there are more like e.g. dark triads like, narcissistic abusers etc).

There is probably more along with pedophilia, off the top of my head these are examples.

Point is that abuse is when you coerce, manipulate or forcefully impose something upon a person that is utterly unwilling to accept that something from you.

So in the matter of sex, it is a sexual abuse.

Imagine you have a brand new white sofa. In one scenario, a child accidentally knocks into your hand, spilling your red wine on the couch. In another, someone throws the wine on the couch in a fit of pique. We don’t consider those the same, even though the couch got stained in both cases.

No we don’t consider them the same.

One is intentional and abusive.

The child knocking it is accidental and not intentional.

Intentionality is the key to abuse.
If I ask you a favor and turns out to be shitty and you have a really bad day while doing something, it’s not an abuse because it lacks the intention.

Different story is if I lie and manipulate you to perform something that I am fully aware is deeply traumatic and repulsive for you. That is abuse, there is intentionality and knowledge, it’s malicious, not accidental.

So if you do that with someone that is sexually connected with you introducing or replacing another sexual connection (of any kind) with a different party behind their back instead of breaking up the previous connection, you are forcing the victim partner to undergo something horrible that they would never want to experience in a million years.

So you are abusing. You are abusing your sexual connection.

It’s sexual abuse.

You don’t have to rape someone to give them a similar trauma. Evil has many different ways to ruin lives.

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 Letmebefrank (original poster member #86994) posted at 4:08 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

I hear what you’re saying, but focusing solely on emotional affairs misses the very real, physical violation that happens when physical cheating takes place

But I’m not solely focusing on emotional affairs. I’m not even partially focusing on them. The original claim was that adultery is the same as rape and pedophilia - sexual abuse. I said not really, and one reason I gave is that analyzing adultery as sexual abuse doesn’t really make sense in the context of infidelity that isn’t sexual. Isn’t that obviously correct?

BFTS answers that by saying, no, every emotional affair is a sexual affair. I’m not sure that’s empirically true. One of the most recent threads on the Wayward side involves just that very kind of infidelity - an emotional but not sexual infidelity.

Consent is not a blank cheque. It relies on honesty about what you are actually agreeing to. If you conceal the fact that you are sleeping with someone else, you completely rob your partner of their right to give informed consent about who and what they are exposing their body to.

I know. I kicked this around with StruggingThrough on the prior page. I admit this is the harder case, but I came down on side that it’s not rape (or pedophilia!). My logic is that it’s hard to see where to draw any lines.

There’s an almost infinite amount of things you could conceal about yourself that could be considered robbing your partner of the ability to give informed consent. Whatever one considers a deal-breaker is the determinant, it doesn’t even have to be reasonable. So if I would never marry/have sex with a [Nazi, Commie, Vegan, fill in the blank with your deal-breaker], and my partner becomes one of those things without informing me, I have the same uninformed consent problem as the person who was cheated on. Are all of those then rapes? Sexual abuse? I’ll keep an open mind but I don’t see where you draw the line. It can’t just be exposure to STDs, because that doesn’t capture EAs.

Your sofa analogy also misses the mark. Physical adultery is never a clumsy toddler bumping into someone with a glass of red wine.

That wasn’t the mark I was aiming for. I used that example to show that comparing effects is the wrong way to compare causes.

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LittleMonk ( member #86661) posted at 4:33 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

I see we have inexorably drifted off topic.

Affairs are a violation. Any time you rob someone of their agency, it is a violation.

That is what secrecy does. It withholds reality from another person and prevents them from making informed choices about their own life and relationship. The betrayed partner is making decisions based on a world that has been deliberately curated for them.

Whether the affair is physical, emotional, or something else is secondary to that fundamental problem. The unfaithful partner knows the truth and gets to make choices with full information. The betrayed partner does not.

That asymmetry is the violation. Their agency has been taken from them.

That does not mean all violations of agency are equivalent. An affair is not the same kind of agency violation as rape or murder. Those involve radically different forms of harm, coercion, and consequence. But the effects of having your agency taken from you through betrayal and secrecy can still be devastating.

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 Letmebefrank (original poster member #86994) posted at 4:46 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

Well said LittleMonk.

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Gemmy ( member #86765) posted at 4:51 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

Sorry for the sure to be lengthy response, and the fact it moved away from the original content, but this is a topic that I feel passionate and down right rage filled about.

Letmebefrank, DRSOOLERS, StrugglingThrough, BackfromtheStorm, and everyone else contributing to this discussion,

I've been following this exchange with considerable intrest because it touches on something I believe we routinely fail to recognize about physical infidelity. And while I understand why the comparison makes people uncomfortable, I agree that deliberately concealed physical adultery, when accompanied by continued sexual intimacy with an unsuspecting spouse, constitutes sexual exploitation and can amount to sexual abuse. I also believe there is a compelling moral argument that it is tantamount to rape by deception.

Before someone takes that statement somewhere I haven't intended, let me establish the distinction. I am not suggesting that every instance of adultery automatically constitutes criminal sexual assault. Nor am I equating every form of infidelity with forcible rape or child sexual abuse. Those are distinct acts with different legal definitions and circumstances. My argument is not that physical adultery and forcible rape are identical acts. My argument is that deliberately concealed physical adultery can violate the same fundamental principle of sexual self-determination that our understanding of sexual consent is intended to protect. And I think that deserves considerably more consideration than it is receiving.

Letmebefrank, you raised the question of where we draw the line, suggesting that concealing political beliefs, religious convictions, or dietary preferences could similarly influence someone's willingness to engage in sexual intimacy. I understand the argument, but I believe it overlooks a fundamental distinction. Sexual exclusivity is not simply another personal characteristic or background preference. In a mutually agreed monogamous relationship, it is an explicit condition governing the sexual relationship itself. When I agreed to a monogamous marriage, I was establishing the circumstances under which I was willing to exercise my bodily autonomy by choosing to engage in sexual intimacy. Those circustances included the mutual understanding that neither of us was sexually involved with other people.

When my wife secretly changed those circumstances, she didn't merely violate an emotional expectation. She fundamentally altered the conditions under which I had agreed to share my body with her, and she deliberatly prevented me from knowing. I consented to sexual intimacy within what I understood to be an exclusive relationship. I did not knowingly agree to sexual intimacy under circumstances in which my spouse was secretly involved with other sexual partners. Those are materially different circumstances.

If my wife secretly changed her political beliefs, I might feel deceived. I might even decide that I no longer wanted to remain married. But those beliefs would not ordinarily alter our agreed sexual exclusivity or introduce additional sexual partners into our relationship. A concealed physical affair does both. This is not about inventing an arbitrary condition after the fact. We had expressly agreed upon sexual exclusivity. She knew that boundary existed. She knew it mattered. She violated it and concealed that violation while allowing me to continue making sexual decisions as though our agreement remained intact, with considerable health concerns involved.

I recognize that even an explicitly agreed condition does not automatically become a condition of legal consent to every sexual act. But morally, I believe deliberately concealing the violation of a known sexual boundary is fundamentally different from failing to disclose an unrelated personal belief. The question is not whether every possible deception invalidates sexual consent. The question is whether deliberately concealing the violation of an expressly agreed sexual boundary, while continuing to obtain the benefits of that sexual relationship, constitutes sexual exploitation. I believe it does.

You also suggested that rape by deception generally involves someone lying specifically to obtain sexual access, whereas an unfaithful spouse is not necessarily concealing an affair for that purpose. I would challenge that distinction as well. A person does not need to initiate an affair for the explicit purpose of tricking their spouse into sex for their subsquent conduct to become sexually exploitative. Consider a spouse who knows that revealing their affair would result in their partner refusing further sexual intimacy. They understand this. They recognize that disclosure would fundamentally change their spouse's willingness to participate. Yet they deliberately withhold that information while continuing to engage in sexual contact.

At that point, whether their original motivation was self-preservation, fear of divorce, emotional cowardice, or maintaining their comfortable lifestyle does not erase what they are knowingly doing. They are deliberately depriving another human being of information they understand could determine whether that person is willing to share their body with them. That isn't simply hiding an uncomfortable truth. It is manipulating the circumstances under which another person exercises sexual autonomy. The fact that obtaining sex may not have been the original purpose of the lie does not eliminate the sexual exploitation that can result from knowingly continuing that deception.

Then consider the physical implications. The unfaithful spouse secretly introduces outside sexual partners into what the betrayed spouse believes is an exclusive sexual relationship. The betrayed spouse is potentially exposed to sexually transmitted infections and other sexual-health risks they never knowingly agreed to accept. They cannot request testing for risks they do not know exist. They cannot insist on additional protection. They cannot decide to abstain from sex. They cannot exercise choices they were deliberately prevented from knowing they needed to make. My WW had no idea her AP was also seeing three other women, I would assume all were devoid of conscience and not use protection like WW.

Does her ignorance in this make it valid to exponentially risk my health and welfare, as well as our children's?

The fact that an infection may never be transmitted does not erase the deprivation of their ability to assess and accept those risks. The absence of physical injury does not establish that someone was given an informed choice. And this is precisely why I struggle with comparing concealed physical adultery to undisclosed dietary or political preferences. The former directly concerns the agreed conditions of sexual intimacy and potentially alters the physical risks associated with it. The latter ordinarily does neither.

There is another dimension I believe deserves serious consideration. When someone discovers years of concealed physical infidelity, the violation reaches backward through their intimate history. My wife engaged in two long-term affairs, approximately fourteen years apart. The first began before our marriage and continued into it. The second occurred nearly two decades into our relationship. Consider what that actually means. There were intimate encounters during those affairs when I believed I understood the reality of the relationship I was participating in. I believed I was sharing my body with someone who was honouring the same explicit boundaries I was. I wasn't. And the truth was deliberately withold from me because allowing me to know it would have meant allowing me to make my own decisions.

Would I have agreed to those sexual encounters had I known the truth? No. And she knew and admitted it.

Would I have married her had I known about the first affair? No. And she knew and admitted it.

Would I have continued exposing myself physically and emotionally to that relationship had I possessed the information she deliberately concealed? No. And she knew and admitted it. Those were my decisions to make. My body. My choice. And I was deliberately denied the opportunity to make those choices.

I cannot go back and refuse participation in something that happened years ago. I cannot reclaim the intimate decisions I would have made differently. I cannot undo the fact that someone else knowingly maintained a false understanding of reality that influenced decisions about my own body. That is not ordinary heartbreak. That is a profound violation of personal and sexual agency.

And this is why I find StrugglingThrough's point about reproductive decisions particularly important. Choosing whether to have a child is among the most consequential decisions a person can make, I would NOT have had three with her had I known, and she knew that too. The suggestion that someone being deliberately deceived about the fundamental circumstances of their marriage while making that decision is somehow comparable to discovering their spouse secretly became a vegan strikes me as an extraordinary oversimplification. We are talking about decisions involving sexual intimacy, reproduction, bodily autonomy, and potentially the entire trajectory of someone's life. Not every deception is equivalent simply becasue deception is the common denominator. The nature of the information being withheld, its relationship to the decision being made, and the deliberate interference with that decision all matter.

We place tremendous emphasis on whether the betrayed spouse physically said yes, while giving insufficient consideration to the deliberate deception under which that yes was obtained. And I understand the legal distinction. Consent to a particular sexual act and informed agreement to every circumstance surrounding a relationship are not automatically the same thing under criminal law. But I reject the suggestion that this distinction resolves the moral question. A person can voluntarily participate in a physical act while simultaneously being deliberately manipulated into continuing a sexual relationship they would otherwise reject. Both things can be true. And acknowledging the first does not erase the exploitation inherent in the second.

Criminal law establishes particular thresholds for particular offences. It does not provide an exhaustive definition of every morally abusive or sexually exploitative act that one human being can inflict upon another. Something does not have to satisfy the criminal definition of rape to constitute a serious violation of sexual autonomy (though I actually believe this should be prosecutable and legal).

BackfromtheStorm, I agree with your broader position that infidelity can involve sexual and psychological abuse. Where I approach the argument somewhat differently is that I don't believe we need to establish equivalent psychological trauma between adultery and forcible rape to demonstrate the violation. Similar injuries do not automatically establish identical causes. And different injuries do not automatically establish that no common principle has been violated. I would rather examine the conduct itself. The deception was deliberate. The agreed circumstances of sexual intimacy were knowingly altered. The betrayed spouse was deprived of information necessary to make an informed decision about continuing that sexual relationship. And the unfaithful partner understood the importance of the information they were concealing. That is the foundation of my argument.

Emotional affairs can involve devastating psychological manipulation without necessarily raising these same direct questions about physical sexual exposure. That does not make their consequences insignificant. It simply means different forms of infidelity can involve different violations. The existence of emotional affairs does not invalidate the distinct bodily autonomy concerns inherent in deliberately concealed physical adultery. Nor does the fact that sexual assault, sexual exploitation, and psychological abuse have different definitions mean we cannot recognize overlapping principles.

I am also not suggesting that everyone who commits adultery is motivated by a desire to abuse their spouse. But I find the repeated emphasis on the wayward spouse's intentions troubling. Someone can be primarily motivated by selfishness, pleasure, fear, or self-preservation and still knowingly engage in abusive or exploitative conduct. You do not have to enjoy violating someone's autonomy to knowingly violate it. You do not have to wake up intending to traumatize someone for your deliberate choices to become profoundly destructive. And feeling guilty while doing it does not somehow restore the choices you are witholding from another person.

I think this distinction is particularly important because we spend an extraordinary amount of time discussing why someone cheated, what they were feeling, what needs they believed were unmet, and what psychological processes enabled the affair. Those questions may help explain the behaviour. But explanations do not erase the nature of the conduct or the rights of the person deceived. We can examine the psychology of infidelity without sanitizing its consequences. And we can acknowledge the humanity of an unfaithful spouse without diminishing the humanity or autonomy of the person they betrayed.

Ultimately, I keep returning to one question.

If you know someone would refuse to share their body with you if they knew the truth, and you deliberately conceal that truth so sexual intimacy continues, how can you reasonably argue that their sexual autonomy has not been violated?

That is what I want answered. Not whether adultery and forcible rape are identical under criminal law. Not whether every form of infidelity causes identical trauma. Not whether one experience is objectively worse than another. But whether one human being has the moral right to deliberately manipulate another person's understanding of reality to preserve access to a sexual relationship that person would otherwise refuse.

The answer, to me, is unequivocally no.

My wife had every right to decide what she did with her own body. What she did not have was the right to make decisions about mine by deliberately withholding the truth. And I think we do a massive disservice to betrayed partners when we reduce that violation to nothing more than a broken promise, a failure of commitment, or an unfortunate consequence of someone else's pursuit of happiness.

The fundamental injury isn't simply that my wife chose to share her body with another man. It is that she exercised her own sexual freedom while deliberately obstructing my ability to exercise mine. She got to make informed decisions about the sexual reality she was participating in. I did not. She knew the truth about our marriage. I was required to live inside a version of it that she knew was false. She had the freedom to decide whether she wanted to continue having sex with me while having sex with someone else. I was denied the freedom to decide whether I wanted to continue having sex with her under those same circumstances, I am actually struggling with disgust looking at her currently.

That is not an equal exercise of sexual autonomy. That is one person exercising theirs at the expense of another's. Call it sexual manipulation. Call it sexual exploitation. Call it a form of sexual abuse. Debate whether rape by deception is an appropriate moral comparison. I am willing to have that discussion, and I recognize that reasonable people may disagree about the terminology. But I am not willing to accept that deliberately controlling the information necessary for someone to make decisions about their own sexual participation is merely ordinary relationship dishonesty.

Because ultimately, the question is not simply whether my wife had the right to have sex with someone else. She did. The question is whether she had the right to ensure I continued having sex with her without knowing that she was doing so. She did not. And no amount of discussion about affair fog, limerence, unmet needs, compartmentalization, or the excitement of an affair bubble changes that.

Her body was hers to choose with. Mine was not hers to deceive her way into.

YES I feel I was raped, sexually abused, emotionally abused, and psychologically abused for 18 years.

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BackfromtheStorm ( member #86900) posted at 7:21 PM on Monday, November 2nd, 2026

BackfromtheStorm, I agree with your broader position that infidelity can involve sexual and psychological abuse. Where I approach the argument somewhat differently is that I don't believe we need to establish equivalent psychological trauma between adultery and forcible rape to demonstrate the violation.

We do not need to establish that.

The analysis was in response to the "infidelity is not rape, come on man!", because it Carrie’s an implicit minimization as in our western culture, it is no longer a crime (it was a capital crime for centuries, both secular and religiously)since the modern age.

Minimization is bad, because rape is a horrible thing.

Infidelity is not rape.

Pedophilia is not rape.

Reproductive deception is not rape.

Manipulation / coercion is not rape.

But they are all sexual and emotional abuse of an unwilling victim.

The first being a crime doesn’t make it worse than the others, it does though give a glimmer of hope that the victim might get justice against their abusers.

For the rest, mostly unless exceptional circumstances, you will not see any justice.

Ever.

They Leave similar wounds, similar trauma. That’s simply a clinical observation that we don’t really know until the moment in our lives we have to face one of those sexual abuses ourself or to someone close to us.

Everyone knows rape is bad. And the reason why is bad is because the wounds it leaves onto the victim, not because of how the book of law punishes it.

But we grew up with a specific narrative romanticizing said abuses. If we were growing up considering them all as bad as rape, I wonder how many people would go forward in allowing themselves into indulging in those.

Most of the abuses people allow themselves to inflict, are excused by "I am a good person, I am not a villain" narrative.

If the narrative is destroyed, you might still do it, but you can’t lie to yourself any longer about "being a good person". You can go for it, but you know just how shitty it is no matter how much you lie to yourself.

The abuse might not be rape, but if you suffer the same as if you were raped, it is pretty irrelevant for the victim.

And plays with your mind too, because you won’t ever get justice, all you can look forward is gaslighting and minimization, with a a bit of scorn and amusement form clueless people on top.

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